iPhone Xr bought used at Flip4Shop - my experiences

My experience: Bought a used iPhone Xr at Flip4Shop

So far, my daughter has wandered the world without a smartphone. With the entry into the 5th grade, however, she is so far advanced in our view that she needs a cell phone to communicate with classmates. If you don't have a WhatsApp smartphone at that age, you are already relatively marginalized, as the kids talk a lot via WhatsApp groups and make appointments via messages.

The iPhone Xr has only one lens, but can still use portrait mode.

The iPhone Xr has become the smartphone of choice: Although it only has one lens, it can still be used in portrait mode.

Why an iPhone Xr?

That my daughter will get an iPhone is pretty obvious if Papa Sir Apfelot is dead. The only question was which model would be considered. Basically, I found the new one iPhone SE 2020 quite interesting, as it is reasonably inexpensive and also has a handy size for a child.

Compared to the Xr, it even has the faster processor (A13 instead of A12) and the new generation of Smart HDR photo function. But unfortunately in the week in which I wanted to order it, it was no longer used at a dealer. I will explain later why I really wanted to buy it used from a reputable dealer.

In any case, the iPhone Xr was the alternative and due to the larger screen and the support of FaceID, which the iPhone SE 2 lacks, it is not even a bad alternative. My daughter was delighted with the large display as she likes to edit photos. That would have been pretty tricky on the iPhone SE.

The iPhone Xr was my second choice because I would have preferred to buy the iPhone SE 2020, but it was sold out when I wanted to do my shopping.

The iPhone Xr was my second choice because I would have preferred to buy the iPhone SE 2020, but it was sold out when I wanted to do my shopping.

Looking for an Apple smartphone with a good camera

Many will now say:

What about the iPhone 6 or the old iPhone SE? That's enough if you just want to send WhatsApp messages.

Yes, that is correct so far, but on the one hand the old iPhones will not receive any new iOS versions anytime soon and on the other hand my daughter has been enjoying taking photos for years. I didn't want to give her an old pickle that only takes blurry photos, but an iPhone model that also delivers decent photos - just to further support her hobby.

So that my daughter got an iPhone with a good camera, she ultimately contributed some money from her money box herself.

If you don't like it, you can return the iPhone to Flip4 Shop or Flip4New within 30 days - free of charge (Photos: Sir Apfelot).

If you don't like it, you can return the iPhone to Flip4 Shop or Flip4New within 30 days - free of charge (Photos: Sir Apfelot).

Why I only buy used iPhones from dealers ...

The decision for a used iPhone was of course made for reasons of cost. If you want to buy the iPhone Xr with 64 GB currently new from Apple, it costs around 680 EUR. I look at the same model Flip4Shop, I am at around 425 EUR - a significant price reduction of over 250 EUR, which is actually not associated with any disadvantages. You can get similarly good prices (usually a little bit more expensive) from the dealer Rebuy, which also has used Apple products on offer.

In my opinion, the two used dealers have the following advantages:

  • Rebuy offers a 36 month warranty
  • Flip4Shop offers a 12 month warranty
  • Both dealers classify the devices according to characteristics such as “visual: used” or “condition: good”
  • I once bought an iPhone 6s and an iPhone 6 at Rebuy and both were “Condition: good” (that's the level after “Like new” and “Very good”), but looked like new - neither on the case nor on the display traces of use were visible
The used iPhone is supplied with a charging plug, charging cable, but without headphones for reasons of hygiene (Photos: Sir Apfelot) -.

The used iPhone is supplied with a charging plug, charging cable, but without headphones for reasons of hygiene (Photos: Sir Apfelot) -.

Beware of fraud in private sales

As a matter of principle, I do not buy used iPhones, iPads or Macs from private people, as there are so many fraudsters around. For that reason just come for me Rebuy or Flip4Shop into consideration, as I have already tried these two dealers and am satisfied. You can find a little idea of ​​Rebuy including a testimonial here in an older blog post.

When I look for Apple devices on eBay classifieds every now and then, I quickly notice what the scammers are doing and how to spot the dubious offers:

  • For example, MacBook Pro models from 2018 are sold, but based on the hardware they must be clearly older models
  • sometimes super-low prices are set, but the goods are never sent to the buyer (I often ask for new photos or serial numbers, invoices, etc., but then you only get excuses, wrong serial numbers or photos that were stolen from another classifieds market (TinEye find them!))
  • the condition of the devices is described much better than it actually is (reversing is almost impossible in a private sale)

My advice: Stay away from private sellers and prefer to spend a little more to buy the device from a reputable dealer.

And if you really want to buy something from a private provider, have the serial number of the device sent to you and give it to you on the service Chipmunk.nl. Then you can see whether the provider's data actually match that of the device. Or whether the serial number isn't already wrong. Also the app "MacTracker"is helpful here for information about specific Mac models.

The SIM card slot and the opening tool are also undamaged and show no signs of use.

The SIM card slot and the opening tool are undamaged and without any signs of use. All accessories (except for headphones) can be found in the original packaging, which is also included with the iPhone.

Condition of my used iPhone Xr

But back to my purchase. I had an iPhone Xr selected at Flip4Shop and then bought it in their eBay shop. A little tip: The prices in Flip4Shop's eBay shop are always a bit cheaper than on their own shop flip4shop.de.

The reported condition of the device was "optically used". You can find this note in the item description:

The device is in a used condition. Visible scratches may appear on the display and / or the housing. Likewise, the device can occasionally have slight notches and / or color abrasions on the housing. These are recognizable during normal use, but not annoying.

Here you can see the volume buttons and the mute switch. You would see scratches on the display in the reflection.

Here you can see the volume buttons and the mute switch. You would see scratches on the display quite well in the reflection - but there are none.

"Used" looks like "new" to me

Based on the product description, I was mentally prepared to receive an iPhone with slight scratches on the display and case. When the package arrived and I unpacked the iPhone, I was very surprised: The iPhone Xr looked like it was peeled from an egg. The only thing missing was the typical Apple film on the device and I would have thought it came straight from the factory.

In short: not the smallest scratch was visible. The case wasn't worn anywhere either, and I couldn't even see a bit of lint in the speaker and charging openings. You can see a bit of dust in my photos, but it always comes out particularly strongly in such close-ups. Nothing could be seen with the naked eye. Each of my iPhones looked significantly worse after a week of use.

A bit of dust can only be found in the loudspeaker openings when magnified (photos: Sir Apfelot).

A bit of dust can only be found in the loudspeaker openings when magnified (photos: Sir Apfelot).

Bad for entrepreneurs: no reported VAT

For the self-employed and companies, the thing with the used dealers still has a disadvantage: No VAT is shown on the invoice from Flip4Shop and Rebuy, so unfortunately you cannot claim this against the tax. For private purchases - as in my case - this is irrelevant, but those who buy goods for their business should think about the missing VAT ID.

Update 17.08.2020/97/XNUMX: battery condition XNUMX%

Since it pointed out to me in the comments that you can get iPhones with bad batteries with such used devices, I checked the battery status of my iPhone Xr. This is given as 97% and you can see the indication that the "high performance capability" is still given.

This relates to special situations, for example when the temperatures are below zero, you are jogging with a GPS tracking app, stream music on the side and then want to quickly shoot a video. It should be clear that this places high demands on the battery - and that is exactly what is still the case if it is still "high-performance". A weak battery here will cause the iPhone to shut down to protect the battery. We know this from the old iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 models, some of which had defective batteries.

Here you can see the screenshots of the battery status. 97% are perfectly fine and show that the battery is still quite fresh. I guess about 4-6 months of use.

Here you can see the screenshots of the battery status. 97% are perfectly fine and show that the battery is still quite fresh. I guess about 4-6 months of use.

As a test, I checked what the battery looks like on my almost 2-year-old iPhone Xs, which is really almost empty once a day. This still has 1% battery status and also supports "high performance". So from my point of view you don't have to worry about the batteries anymore. Electronics protect them better and better and they also last longer.

Positive experience with buying a used product through Flip4Shop

The bottom line is that I can say that I - just like I did before at rebuy - I am very positively surprised by the used iPhone from Flip4Shop. If there was a new “used” model right at the market launch, I would never buy a brand-new one again.

The 12 month warranty at Flip4Shop and the option of exchanging the device within 30 days are two further points that show me that you don't do much wrong here.

If you need a new iPhone or iPad for your kids or you, I can Flip4Shop and also Rebuy Highly recommend. There are other used dealers, but I haven't had any experience with buying used ones.

If you are unsure about which iPhone model to choose, I will be happy to help you. Just leave a comment with your requirements or specifications.

 

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17 comments

  1. Nicolas says:

    I think these platforms make sense, but only for private purchases.
    Anyone who buys there as a self-employed / freelancer, i.e. who is entitled to input tax deduction, receives a purchase receipt, but without any VAT. For me, for example, often price-relevant ...

    • Sir Apfelot says:

      Hello Nicolas! Good hint. I'll add that in the article!

      • Nicolas says:

        By the way….
        Apple also sells refurb devices (but not iPhones), but Apple gives you a normal invoice with VAT shown!

        The platforms mentioned, such as Rebuy, are 95% private purchases and they are always without VAT.

        • Sir Apfelot says:

          Yes, there is still that too. But Apple's refurb devices are still quite expensive in comparison. But maybe a good idea for the self-employed.

  2. DancingBallmer says:

    I wouldn't mind a scratch here and there, after all, a smartphone is a commodity, but what about the battery condition? If the previous user has carried out several charging cycles in one day, including deep discharges, this is quickly noticeable, especially with the relatively small batteries of the iPhones, and the PowerBank quickly becomes a constant companion.

    For me, this is actually the biggest fear with used mobile devices, especially since having batteries replaced by Apple later is not cheap and changing yourself because of the sticky devices (I swapped the battery on an iPad Mini and 5S myself) and the different mini screws is hell. Also, I have never had good experiences with third-party batteries (notebooks, cell phones, iPhone, iPad), they never reached the performance of the original parts and did not last long.

    Otherwise, however, thanks for the reference to reBuy, they also sell used desktops and seem to be very cheap compared to other refurbished shops.

    • Sir Apfelot says:

      Hello! Yes, that's a good point. I'll take a look at the battery status of the iPhone Xr and then report how it is. I currently have no access to the device because it and my daughter are on the move. You should also be careful with the iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 models, as they had the well-known battery error. But there are few problems with the newer models. I then add again in the article how the battery status behaves. However, my experience is that the batteries are quite resilient. A real deep discharge is impossible because the electronics switch off beforehand.

      • Nicolas says:

        With the XR, you most likely don't have to worry! Mine is now 2,5 years old and has hundreds of charge cycles and my battery health is 94% and the battery lasts from 6:30 in the morning to midnight with about 24-00% remaining charge on an intensive work day!

        The XR's battery was one of the main selling points for buying this model!

        • Sir Apfelot says:

          I also think that the batteries like that: discharge up to 10-20% and then fully recharge. And yes: I am not worried about the battery. But I'll still have a look at the battery health.

    • Wolli says:

      In the Alstertal EKZ I had the Apple Shop exchanged for the 8 Plus for around € 60, which is really (sometimes) not too expensive.

      Nevertheless, when buying a used one, you can never be certain whether the owner has not upgraded his iPhone himself with inferior parts before the sale - I have already returned one to the purchasing portal because the display looked somehow blurred.

      By the way, because of the finger scanner on the front, an 8 Plus is currently the last reasonably usable iPhone device for me, XS Max face recognition has been the proof since Corona that two independent biometric systems must be installed. Sold it again.

      • Sir Apfelot says:

        Despite Corona, I am satisfied with my Xs. I'm not out and about that often and I don't need a mask at home. : D But you're right: You never know what was screwed onto the iPhone before. But you have the guarantee and the option to exchange it ... if it should be inexpensive, this is still the best choice. Out of my sight…

    • Sir Apfelot says:

      Hello DancingBallmer! I just added the display of the battery status (97%) in the post below. For the sake of completeness.

  3. Clement says:

    I bought a lot of used macs and iPhones at maconline.de. Always top goods, German company and 12 months guarantee.

    • Sir Apfelot says:

      Thanks for the hint. Maybe I'll do a post with all used Apple product retailers. Should be quite a lot. : D

    • Nicolas says:

      A small addition to this for the self-employed and entrepreneurs: you can set a filter on Maconline where you can tick "declared VAT".
      Because with private purchases (also with Macoline) the differential taxation applies!

      I think it's very customer-friendly!

      • Sir Apfelot says:

        Oh, that's a great thing! Thanks for the hint. Maybe I should test them on the next device and write a report. : D

  4. Hossa ;-)

    "The 12 month warranty at Flip4Shop and the possibility of exchanging the device within 30 days are two further points that show me that you don't do much wrong here."
    Well, the 12 month warranty is the legal minimum! ;-) Nevertheless, the shop makes a serious impression on me and of course you can be lucky with used goods.

    Unfortunately, I have had worse experiences with Reb **, because they refused to take back a MacBook despite a defective graphics card, because the device had been opened and thus any guarantee / warranty was excluded. That was of course not correct, because at the time it was completely normal for you to be able to swap RAM and drives in computers yourself. But unfortunately I didn't want to look for a lawyer especially for this at the time ... :-(

    Such problems are of course superfluous with newer devices, where you can't / are not allowed to change anything yourself anyway ... :-(

    Good luck, Ollie

    • Sir Apfelot says:

      Hello Ollie! I know it's tough not getting a complaint through, but unscrewing a MacBook is different from opening a compartment in which you could replace the RAM bars. The old MacBook models still had something like that, but you always had to unscrew the bottom for graphics cards and the like. And I think the rebuy people are right when they say the device has been opened and the warranty is gone.
      Regarding the other objection with the 12 month warranty: Yes, this is the minimum required by law. But with private sales you simply have zero warranty. That's why I think the 12 months are a positive thing.

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